What To Do If You Find Mold in Your House

 
The following is a document I wrote for one of the mold groups.  It’s long, but I thought it would be better to give it to you all in one chunk. 
 
 
Sadly, “A common misperception (sic) is that killing mold, which is a relatively easy task, eliminates risk from contaminated environments or items. Unfortunately, this does little to decrease the risk as nonviable fungal spores, fragments, and mycotoxins remain present and, due to their structure, such as with an epoxide ring, [117] they can be extremely difficult to destroy.” https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ts…
 
Since this article is a peer-reviewed, scientific article on mold with footnotes and scientific studies, it is one of the best sources of truth about mold.
 
Any company that claims to have a product which makes benign the nonviable fungal spores, fragments, and mycotoxins must prove this with independent testing to truly be safe. So far, none of us in any of the mold support groups have found a company that has. Most test only for viable spores following “remediation.” This proves nothing about safety, only that the mold is “dead.”
 
Some (including me) have experienced that spraying mold can temporarily increase the release of mold spores and toxins. The current hypothesis is that the mold tries to “fight back” when being killed.
 
Logic (and a knowledgeable rep who talked with me) says that as the spores die and break into smaller pieces, they become more easily inhaled. Just as a dead mouse gives off horrible smell, dead mold can give off toxins.
 
Further, even proper remediation of mold is sometimes not enough for a person who became ill. But sometimes it may be fine for others. Safe remediation also may be impossible and risky even for healthy people, such as in the case of a severely flooded home. Flooding increases the amount of spores and toxins very, very quickly. Mold begins to grow usually around 48 hours of moisture.
 
If you choose to remediate, these articles below describe how mold can be removed.

 

Remediation

 

Other Options

If your state or county or country allows it, you can sell your house with full mold disclosure. Even if you take a loss, it is better (IMHO) than continuing to lose your health. Loss of health almost always means loss of income. Although gaining health can be difficult, it is usually not impossible.
 
If you need to get out NOW (for your health) but have not sold the house, you can request a forbearance on your mortgage. A forbearance means the lender will temporarily suspend payments on your loan, though you will still owe interest on this time period later. You can write your lender saying how the house is unlivable because of the type of mold found, severity of it, or your trouble with mold (CIRS, mold toxicity, etc.) A letter from your doctor may be helpful, although we were able to get forbearance with just letters from us.
 
You can then request a short sale if your house sells for too little to cover the remainder of your mortgage due to the discovery of mold. In some states, this “debt forgiveness” may result in a state “income” tax charge. Again by writing letters, we were able to get this “income tax” on our short sale exempted.

 

After Remediating or Leaving

Nothing about mold is easy. If you can get out (or remediate super well) before the mold triggers your body to begin reacting to chemicals also, you will have a much easier time finding new housing or recover.
 
Once Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) (also called Toxic Injury, Environmental Illness, other names possible) is triggered, it is a cumulative illness. It is a poisoning, not an allergy. The more chemicals you continue to be around, the sicker you may get. It is like having arsenic poisoning and continuing to eat arsenic every day.
 
Some come out of MCS rather easily “mostly” by getting out of mold, avoiding it, and possibly moving to a different state or country or place with lower mold and lower pollution.
 
Others struggle (like me) and have to work tremendously hard to avoid chemicals as well (all cleaning products except totally natural ones like vinegar, all carpets, most paints, towns because of pesticides & exhaust, crops in the country because of pesticides, etc. The list is unbelievably long.) I wash my clothes in ONLY vinegar or baking soda (alternating, leaning on baking soda when I need a scent to come out), which works amazingly well. Sometimes soaking and washing in natural peppermint tea helps my clothing and bedding.
 
Mold and chemical toxicity symptoms can feel exactly the same. This makes figuring out the puzzle tricky.
 
The easiest way is to take a sabbatical in a good location with NO possessions from the moldy house and the lowest-chemical things you can find, just enough “things” to survive. Camping in a semi-arid or arid climate often works well because it is easier to get away from mold (hidden mold in a house, even outdoor mold) and pollution. As your body begins to unmask, you may be surprised to find how much you notice bad places, pollution, and mold much more than you did before. This is a good sign, and can help you find a new place to live, although it can be hard to work around because your body is rightly “warning” you to get away, and it may be hard to find a place to “get away” to.
 
One solution is building a mold-resistant house from scratch (low-tox building materials if you are chemically sensitive), but of course that’s easier said than done.

 

Locations Effect

To learn more about the locations effect, which is extremely important in many people’s healing, check out this website:

https://paradigmchange.me/

Read these books:

And if you like, join one of these great Facebook groups:

The Erik Johnson Effect

Practical Mold Avoidance

 

Other Treatments

Other treatments are unlikely to work if you are still in mold. However, some can be helpful both in mold (mainly probiotics IMHO) and after leaving. Many in Facebook mold support groups have great ideas on helpful protocols, healthy practices, etc.

 

In Emergencies

Sometimes a mold source can be covered up with aluminum foil (and/or foil tape). One big risk is the mold finding its way around the foil and causing the person to slowly become sicker without the person realizing it.
With that in mind, here is my story:
 
I had no place to stay except one house. I could not camp because the wildfire smoke that year affected my weak body so much I had trouble breathing. Much of the Western USA was covered with wildfire smoke. I get very, very sick from the outdoor mold in the Eastern USA. It was too hot to sleep in my car. The house with a/c was the only place I could get enough protection from the smoke to breathe okay. We had less than zero money (not even enough money for our current needs, no usable credit cards, nothing) to find me a better place.
 
I came into the bedroom and sat on the bed. Within about 10 minutes, I started to pass out. I listened to my heart–sure enough, a mold-toxin heart symptom.
 
(I get this symptom from mold toxins and nothing but mold toxins. Every time I have this symptom, we find mold. Every time I breathe mold of any kind, I get this symptom. I also got it from objects brought from our moldy house.)
 
Pushing myself through the fatigue, I got up and began to smell everything to see where it was coming from. It was two walls. (Weeks later we found out those two walls had been open to the elements while being re-sided.)
 
My husband covered both walls with foil, and my heart and exhaustion symptoms stopped.
 
I’d start to get symptoms again and realize the cat tore a hole in the foil. Tape it up and I’d be fine again.
 
The wildfires did not last this long, but (long story) I ended up sleeping in that room about 12 months, with 3 months in the same house but a different bedroom downstairs (then back upstairs and still fine with the foil).
 
However, in another rental, there was mold in the “attic” of the mobile home. Every time the furnace would turn on, I’d get mold symptoms. We figured it must be pulling air from up there somehow. We didn’t even try to cover the entire ceiling with foil, and I’m not sure it would have worked anyhow. It was probably in the ducts as well. Because it was intermittent, I survived there a while. We also covered two problematic cupboards with foil which helped. But, I got very, very sick there, afraid for my life the week before we left when it was barely warm enough for me to camp again.
 
Caveats:
  • Do not store clothing or linens in or on foil. The ions can come off and apparently get “into” the clothing and affect your body. Also foil would stop airflow which may cause the clothes to mold.
  • Do not walk barefoot on foil. The aluminum can get in your skin and is not good for you.
  • Do not constantly rest an arm on foil or touch it more than necessary. (Same reason.)
  • Some may react to the foil apparently even through the air. If you feel worse after trying foil, probably should get rid of it.
  • Do not cover anything currently wet. You may even want to check the moisture content of the wood before covering it, especially if the wood has been wet in the recent past. There are meters to check this. Covering wet materials could cause some seriously bad mold to grow under it.
  • Do not cover anything that might get wet behind the foil, such as an entire sink cabinet. The sink could begin leaking inside the cabinet and cause major problems behind the foil. Instead, maybe cover the bottom of the cabinet and other visible mold while making it possible to still open the door of the cabinet to check the pipes.
  • Do not cover the inside of exterior walls if you have a reservoir siding like brick, as solar vapor drive could cause condensation and mold on the back of the cool foil. http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/…
  • Periodically check the back of the foil to make sure moisture is not accruing or mold is not getting worse. Re-tape holes.
  • I use kitchen foil. You can use foil tape to tape it–the foil on the top of the tape should block the adhesive smell. Some use Denny foil for a more sturdy option. I do not know about the chemical components of it, if any. Mylar contains plastic, which is a synthetic chemical. Some do okay with it anyhow; I do not.
  • As I said, this is not a foolproof fix. Please use caution. If you can get away from mold, that is better. If you cannot, I hope it helps you like it did me.

Moldy Basements

Moldy basements are so common. However, especially if you are not already sick from mold, besides trying to block it there is one fairly major thing that can help–switching from a furnace in the basement to electric baseboard or cove heating. If you are not smoke-sensitive, a wood-burning stove works too.
 
The furnace will usually pull air from your basement and then blow it all over the house. It may depend on the set-up of the basement, if there are “rooms” in the basement, where the mold is, how much there is, etc. as to how much gets into the upstairs air.
 
You can take that, and the ducts (which can also get moldy), out of the equation by switching heat methods.
 
I was in a house once heated with baseboard heaters with mold in the basement, but it did not affect me at all upstairs (until we tried fogging with thieves oil–then the spores and toxins came upstairs and made me very sick. It went back to normal, good again after stopping the fogging.) I was surprised, I thought the air would still come up from there.
 
However, conditions may exist where the basement air WOULD come up even without a furnace, so use caution.
 
Christa Upton    Black Hills Picture Books    Edgemont, SD  57735

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Time to Grieve

My Dad passed away on Friday, so I need some time to grieve. Not sure when I will blog again, we’ll see.

But today, I will share good advice given me by a number of friends this week, on grieving a death:

  • Give yourself time, as much time as you need.
  • Know that grief takes energy. Rest if needed (especially with chronic illness).
  • Sometimes grief can cause physical pain.
  • Cry when you need to.
  • Realize people grieve differently, even in the same family, and that’s okay.
  • Know the pain will get less.
  • Drink lots of water (with a dab of juice for electrolytes).  When my friend mentioned water, I suddenly realize my mind was so filled with grief, I was forgetting good things for my body, including drinking water.
  • It is okay to feel strongly two opposing emotions at the same time.
  • The feeling that you or your life will never be normal again–it will pass.
  • Your relationship with the one who passed away is NOT defined by the last week, last day, last hour, last conversation.  It is the whole relationship you had with them.
  • Go to God for comfort.

What is your advice for grief?

 

Christa Upton    Black Hills Picture Books    Edgemont, SD  57735

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The Odd Directions

One day, we were sitting chatting with our friend. One of our children came up and asked for an ice cube tray. We had one in the RV somewhere, I knew.

I matter-of-factly said, “Look above the sink or in the shower.”

Our friend laughed.  In the shower?

Someone had given us the RV, for which we were extremely grateful.  But the shower never worked, and we didn’t want to spend money to get it fixed, especially since it could be a mold risk anyhow. So, we had used the shower like a little storage closet, for paper plates, napkins, empty yogurt containers…and maybe the ice cube trays.

I hadn’t thought about it, but after our friend laughed, I got a great chuckle out of how funny that sounded.  The more I thought about it, the funnier it was.

 

Have you ever said anything that seemed normal to you but funny to others? 

 

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Getting through Grief

One day when our daughter Sarah, who has spina bifida, was very young, we took her to see her orthopedist.  He explained that with the level of her lesion, it would be impossible for her to walk without major assistance.

He further explained that getting such equipment necessary to help would be like asking her to try to learn to walk with very heavy chain mail.

So, he recommended we not even try to help her walk but get a good stander instead. He said maybe she could someday swivel to move across the room in it.

We said okay.

Then he sat there looking at us in shock.

He said most parents of children with spina bifida fight him tooth and nail.  He said they refuse to give up the dream of their child “walking,” no matter what it’s like for the child. 

He couldn’t believe we just said, “Okay.” 

We said his reasoning made sense, but it wasn’t until later that I realized the bigger reason why we were able to accept his advice easily and give up the dream of our daughter walking.

This same reason applies to any sad thing for me, any difficulty, bad circumstance, or suffering. 

Our friend wrote this beautiful song for our daughter. It makes me cry every time I hear it.  There is something better coming.

Sarah Dances

God has made a way for us to have all our sorrows erased one day, an end to the suffering, a way to be with Him.

Until that day, I grieve, but not without hope. On that day, pure joy.

Christa Upton    Black Hills Picture Books    Edgemont, SD   

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Brand New, Free Audio Drama

We love audio dramas. I used to save washing dishes for after the kids’ bedtime (and play with them or do something fun instead) and then in the quiet of the late evening, do dishes while listening to The Chronicles of Narnia audio drama.  🙂  The kids like Adventures in Odyssey and others.  Audio dramas can be a wonderful “story time” while getting other things done or playing with Legos.  🙂 

Here is a new one, complete with beautiful, original music: 

Enjoy!  🙂 

Christa Upton   Black Hills Picture Books   Edgemont, SD  57735

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47 Ways We Reduced Mold Risk when Building our House

Video tour of the house:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRhksJI28Aw

  1. Dry climate (If you follow many other ideas, you can still do well for a dry house even in a wet climate, I believe.)
  2. Ground built up higher before building
  3. Ground around sloped away from house
  4. Large vegetable garden (needing lots of watering) is downhill from the house
  5. Drainage ditch carrying water away from the house
  6. Gutters with long downspouts to carry water far away from house
  7. Gravel under slab
  8. Shallow, insulated slab (reduces risk of water wicking up through slab)
  9. In-slab heating (reduces risk of condensation on cold slab in winter)
  10. Slab cured over 30 days before building
  11. Douglas fir framing (more mold-resistant than some woods; less thermal bridge than metal framing although metal framing can be insulated. Metal framing is especially helpful in climates where termites are a problem and the house occupant is chemically sensitive to pesticides.)
  12. Metal z-piece flashing over house sill
  13. Steel siding (not a reservoir siding so it doesn’t hold water or have risk of mold growth on it in normal circumstances)
  14. Steel roof (will hold up against leaks much longer than a typical shingled roof)
  15. Steel interior ceiling (Zero diffusion of vapor into attic. It could still sneak up through openings, but we were careful with light fixtures, etc.)
  16. FlexWrap on window sills (no seam at corners where moisture could find its way easier because it is a continuous coverage/wrap)
  17. Plastic window frames (to reduce condensation risk/thermal bridging with metal windows, but there are some good metal ones out there I think, with thermal breaks)
  18. Hardly any wood outside, just around exterior doors, treated with beeswax/coconut oil
  19. No foundation plantings or watering close to the house
  20. No trees overhanging or shadowing the house (lots of sunlight for drying)
  21. No sheathing
  22. No wood sub-floor
  23. No plywood at all in the actual house materials (very little plywood in furniture either)
  24. Thorough insulation, no thermal bridges
  25. Sheep’s wool insulation (it regulates humidity)
  26. No interior vapor barrier or reducer in the walls (no plastic at all except water pipes) so that the wall can breathe
  27. No drywall (Plaster walls, which are mold-resistant. Plaster walls also reduce air leaks into walls because you can create walls with fewer gaps.)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmdEb1ZKjU
  28. Cement-bed tiling on floor, so no thin-set (Thin-set can apparently grow mold.) Here is how to do it:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZePENUCnZcA
  29. No sealant on floor tile grout, so if a spill happens, the grout can dry out. If it were sealed, an imperfect sealing job could let water through but prevent it from drying out. This also allows us to see if water is coming UP through the tile, such as when the toilet leaked underneath.  Update:  I would NOT do this if there is wood of any kind underneath the tile. There is too much risk of the wood absorbing water through unsealed grout, wicking under tile, and not drying out.  Rock-hard cement has much less risk.
  30. Exposed pipes under sinks, no sink cabinets
  31. Exposed pipes with free-standing tub. The supply line is in the wall, but many connection points are open to the room, so this allows us to find & fix leaks fast. 
  32. Free-standing tub fixed away from wall so there is no connection with the wall at all.
  33. Exhaust fans in bathroom and kitchen, both vented outside. Many kitchen stove “exhaust” fans vent right back into the kitchen, dispersing the humidity but not taking it outside.
  34. Ductwork for exhaust fans insulated (to prevent condensation in cold attic)
  35. No other ductwork, no HVAC
  36. Window a/c unit which we dry out at least every two days 
  37. Dishwasher open to the room on all four sides. The back side is fairly close to the wall, however, it is still out from the wall enough to see what is going on, no hidden places that could gather water.  This photo is looking down at the gap between the back of the dishwasher and the wall.  The silver poles are the metal leg/frame of the worktable under which the dishwasher is installed.  The white “tube” in the middle of the photo is the water supply line to the sink and dishwasher. (The supply line is in the kitchen next to the wall instead of inside the wall.)   This set-up also allows airflow behind the dishwasher to reduce humidity risk.  We open windows and run fans blowing out while using dishwasher, also.       
  38. Dishwasher installed under metal worktable, no wood close by
  39. No pressboard or plywood in kitchen or bathroom or laundry room
  40. Metal cabinets in kitchen
  41. Industrial refrigerator with no drip pan and also several inches above the floor, so dirt and humidity are not trapped
  42. No freezer inside the house
  43. Plumbing all on the side of the house opposite bedrooms, so if an issue arises and needs to be remediated, it can be more easily blocked off from sleeping areas.
  44. Dehumidifier for bathroom (etc.) when it is humid outside. We clean it every two days and have recently learned that vinegar in the collection bin may help reduce mold in the bin by changing the PH of the water.
  45. One level (no upstairs plumbing)
  46. Only one bathroom
  47. House all tile, no carpet or other flooring to hide accidental moisture

(For more info, see our book:         Building a House for Multiple Chemical Sensitivity: a Mold-Resistant, Low-Tox Home )

 

Christa Upton      Black Hills Picture Books     Edgemont, SD  57735

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Back to Work on Picture Books

I took a “break” to work on the book about our house, which was good.  Then do the house video tour, then break my wrist (LOL), then celebrate our son’s graduation from high school, then celebrate with my husband our 25th wedding anniversary.  Here we are, 25 years ago.  🙂

 

 

 

 

Now I’m back to illustrating and am excited about it!  I am currently working on my humorous picture book titled The Plate.  I’m hoping it can bring laughter, enjoyment, and a time for sharing the joy of books to many children and their teachers and parents and caregivers. 

Here is the illustration I’m doing now, partially completed:

I draw digitally on my laptop, using the mouse pad and the program Fresh Paint.  I really like this program.  I mostly use “colored pencil” and “watercolor.”  I am truly amazed that the shading, detail, & effects I can accomplish with this program.  Also, how else can you do “watercolor” that erases?  LOL 

In addition, a young man who is still in high school but has taken art classes is working on the illustrations for another of my humorous picture books, The Clowns. It is based on a true story.  🙂  I’ll let you guess which character was me.  😀 

I’m very pleased with this young man’s work and am looking forward to publishing this book also.

I don’t have estimated publishing dates yet, but I will let you know of course.  🙂  For more frequent updates on my children’s picture books specifically, you can check out my Patreon page.

Also don’t forget to print off my free coloring pages from The Cat Race, if you know anyone who likes to color.  🙂 

Christa Upton  Black Hills Picture Books   Edgemont, SD  57735

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The Results of Unprocessed Grief

Once again I am coming back from a blogging break with a “bang” and a deep subject, but it’s what is on my mind.

Unprocessed grief can result in many things. These are some. 

Please note:  in several of these categories, unprocessed grief is not the ONLY cause of these conditions!!!!  It may be caused by other things, too.

 

  1. Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. When a person gets stuck in unresolved grief, often there is an element of lack of control.  The person could not control the circumstances of loss, so they begin to try to control everything around them.  Alternatively, some are so devastated by grief and the unfair rejection of others that their compulsions begin to control them. They feel if they could only “do it right,” things would be better. So they are compelled to keep trying to “do it right.” Sometimes it is a mixture of these, & sometimes OCD has other elements as well.
  2. Hoarding. Since this is an “acceptable” addiction, it is one people may be tempted to do if they keep themselves away from alcohol or such. Shopping may temporarily relieve sadness, guilt (false or real), and other effects of unprocessed grief. A person may even gather trash around them because they feel they are trash. They may allow possessions to take over their homes to “protect” themselves from others or to comfort them from loss.
  3. Overeating. When a child or adult is not allowed to express disappointment, to share sadness, to speak the truth about abuse done to them (which then this often causes false guilt in the victim), they may eat to feel better.  This category especially has many other causes (illnesses, metabolism, heredity, even environmental toxins I believe), but grief can cause it, too.
  4. Other mental illnesses. So many people have no one in their lives patient enough to help them through grief, validate, not minimize, and a big one—help them heal from the hurts. Particularly where hurts were caused by other people, the victim needs new friends to counteract the hurt, to speak the truth, to love them with kindness and gentleness and patience.

Let people express their sadness.  (I don’t mean whining over their coffee order being served incorrectly. I also don’t mean letting them manipulate you.) Listen and validate the unfairness of the situation.  Help them grieve losses.

With children, it can be even more tricky because their grief might pop up unexpectedly.  Some tantrums are just selfish.  Others might be like this:  their pet dies, and the child cries a little but still feels sad or angry.

This feeling grows inside (especially if an adult tells them, “Don’t cry.”) They go to the store and want a toy. Mom says no to toy. The anger from losing a pet rises up, and the child throws a tantrum.  Mom thinks it’s just a selfish kid wanting a toy, but it’s really the overflow from the unresolved grief of losing a beloved pet.

Grieve well, let others grieve well.

 

Christa Upton   Black Hills Picture Books      Edgemont, SD   57735

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Unusual Blogging Break

So I’m going to take a break from blogging for a while, but here’s why it’s unusual for me: it’s only because I want to and not because I pretty much HAVE to.  🙂 

In the past, I have gotten overwhelmed with having to spread my little energy so thin. Without the fairly extreme work ethic passed to me by my parents, and terrible hatred of boredom, LOL I wouldn’t have even blogged/written/etc. even as much as I did. 

I also had times camping with no access to internet, and even worse, times when my body could not tolerate the computer at all.

But today, it’s just because I want a break and (for once! LOL) can’t think of anything to say.  🙂 That’s not really true, there are things I could write about. Just not as passionately as I usually try to be, often waiting until something won’t let me NOT write it.

But right now, I hear other activities calling me that don’t involve my head in the computer. My best guess is that I’ll blog again in the fall.

I hope you all are well and have a good summer!

Christa Upton    Black Hills Picture Books   Edgemont, SD  57735

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Guest Post–The Crock Pot Method

Guest post by a friend of mine

The Crock Pot Method of Sharing Ideas with Others

I really love these ideas!  And it could apply to much more than just mold illness or MCS. My friend writes:

I’ve been discouraged lately. I have tried to share with friends and family what I have learned about mold avoiding. I’ve emailed them articles, and shared links, and talked about my own experiences with mold. I’ll admit that having them understand would be wonderful for me, but some of these people are also mold affected and don’t realize it!  It’s tough knowing your friends are sick and believing you could have the answers for them. If they would only listen. But, they won’t.

I put it all in their microwave (brain) hoping that they will quickly come up with the same conclusions I did. Somehow, between the text I type, and their understanding, they must hear: “Sell all you own, shave your head bald, and join the circus.” I swear, I never once mentioned the circus 😉.

Seriously, and as frustrating as I know it is, they are not going to hear us.  Not until they are ready. And they may never be ready.

So, stop thinking of this as a microwave: instant on!  Think of it more like the crock pot method of sharing. You add an ingredient, it cooks, and then you add another ingredient and that stews for awhile.  Not too quickly, or all at once, but a little at a time as they can receive it.  Eventually, one day, you hope that person will lift the lid and say: “Oh, my goodness, it’s what you’ve been saying all along, it’s a STEW!”   But, it might be a slower process than you had hoped!

In my case, the first day I heard about mold injury, I was convinced and ready to dump all my stuff and move to the next phase of my life. But, the only reason I was ready to hear was because I had spent so many years as a chemical avoider already. Having CFS/Fibro/MCS for 30+ years had prepared me.  I was constantly looking for answers and ready to try ANYTHING to get better.  When I heard about mold, it was like: “FINALLY AN ANSWER!”  This will not be everyone’s experience.

The other night while chatting with a friend it came to me – we aren’t going to win them by expecting a microwave response, but, we may win them by using the crockpot method.  S-l-o-w-l-y, p-a-i-t-i-e-n-t-l-y.

Here are my best words of advice suggestions when trying to convince people that mold is dangerous and could be causing their health problems:

  1. “Would you like to hear what happened to me in my moldy house?”  I didn’t mean WAIT to be asked before you share what you know. I am saying when an opportunity comes up, ask the person if they would like to hear your story.  Waiting for a response and reaction will help you to know how much, and how soon, to share.  Recently, I met someone who had health issues who shared with me that her husband grew up in a home with mold issues that was eventually condemned because of mold. I assumed she wanted to hear my story. Actually, she didn’t. She told me even if it was mold, they were not prepared to change their lifestyles.  I needed to accept that. I had given her a little, but only as much as she was willing.  Hopefully at some point I can give her more, but it must be her choice.  I am learning not to push.  So, always ask for permission to share.

 

  1. When they ask you a question, try to answer only their question. It’s tempting to send them 400 articles and two documentaries and links to Mold Avoidance Forums the minute they ask you a question.  If they have asked you how long you were sick, try to answer the question –  “I was sick for 12 years, until I got out of the mold.” Giving them too much, too soon, will only sent them scampering away.  Ask me how I know this!

 

  1. Resist the urge to preach.  “You know, you will NEVER get better unless you do  x, y, z.” That may be true, but using crockpot method, you want them to come up with this themselves once they have all information.  If it is their idea to join the circus, er um Mold Avoider’s Forum, then they will be much more receptive.

I know that not being understood and worse yet, trying to help people who seemingly do not want your help, can be so frustrating, but don’t ever give up.  Slow and steady wins the race.  Determine to add a little to the pot at a time.  I can’t guarantee that they will get it one day, but I can guarantee they will not, if you try to push too much, too soon. Put the microwave away and get out that crockpot.

Thank you so much, my friend!!!  This is brilliant.

 

Christa Upton  Black Hills Picture Books   Edgemont, SD  57735

 

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